tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post114631324496498776..comments2024-03-26T04:21:43.535-05:00Comments on Free Association: Immigration and CitizenshipSheldon Richmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15672237234580563637noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post-58683195927576193082007-05-07T00:42:00.000-05:002007-05-07T00:42:00.000-05:00This post is ancient in Blog timescales, but there...This post is ancient in Blog timescales, but there's a small chance someone will find this comment useful.<BR/><BR/>See <A HREF="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002894.html" REL="nofollow">this Language Log post</A> for an explanation of how the results of that survey were spun deliberately to make Americans look as dumb as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post-1146522926249716062006-05-01T17:35:00.000-05:002006-05-01T17:35:00.000-05:00Puppetboy: What I said is a pipe dream is keeping ...Puppetboy: What I said is a pipe dream is <I>keeping</I> it limited. We might be able to roll it back. But the question is, how do we keep from growing again?Sheldon Richmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672237234580563637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post-1146508484512059172006-05-01T13:34:00.000-05:002006-05-01T13:34:00.000-05:00Puppetboy asks....SR, if you believe the reduction...Puppetboy asks....<BR/>SR, if you believe the reduction of the state is a pipe dream, why are you still struggling. Reflex action ?<BR/>Do you vote at any level ? Local stuff ?<BR/>I do not vote as I believe it simply legitimizes evil doings. I have long pondered what to do given the momentum of the state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post-1146503650500915292006-05-01T12:14:00.000-05:002006-05-01T12:14:00.000-05:00Sheldon Richman wrote ..."I do see a problem with ...Sheldon Richman wrote ...<BR/><BR/>"I do see a problem with saying that immigrants can't partake of the welfare state: schools, hospitals, Medicaid, etc. They do pay taxes."<BR/><BR/>As a former legal immigrant (initially a work visa that had to be renewed annually), I always thought it preposterous that I had to pay not only income taxes on my "worldwide income" which some would excuse as payment for the current "services" I received from the U.S. government (LOL), but I also had to contribute to Social Security, no matter what, which would do me no good if I willingly decided to go back to my country or if the Feds decided not to renew my work visa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post-1146402669717061702006-04-30T08:11:00.000-05:002006-04-30T08:11:00.000-05:00I don't rule out that some people vote in self-def...I don't rule out that some people vote in self-defense. Whether it does more harm than good is another matter, however. I like this line from Anthony de Jasay's <I>Against Politics</I> (23): "It is a fallacy of composition to believe that if a group as a whole has some capacity, parts of the group must have parts of the capacity."Sheldon Richmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672237234580563637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20077444.post-1146336629016902872006-04-29T13:50:00.000-05:002006-04-29T13:50:00.000-05:00I think voting is still legitimate as a defensive ...I think voting is still legitimate as a defensive measure. When an immigrant enters the country, he is not, in my libertarian-informed opinion, entering into some contract with the owner/operators of the state (an unjust "contract" no doubt), so a vote is one way to show that the state cannot run roughshod over his natural rights. Sure, most votes nowadays are for some kind of legal plunder, but they need not be. Sometimes votes are cast for a deduction of state power, or at least the prevention of further power.<BR/><BR/>-Dain/MupetblastAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com